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What did you do today?

Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:43 pm

I couldn't stop myself. My family are back tomorrow so I turned my garage into a mini-spray booth and gave the boot, bonnet, door mirrors and one of the doors two coats of base coat. The door was re-done, due to a poor finish that I decided I couldn't live with.

With the help of some fan heaters I was able to get two coats of paint on and tomorrow I'll give them a few coats of lacquer. The lacquer dries a lot faster, so all being well I'll have everything finished by the time my family gets back from visiting the in-laws.

Last time they saw the car it was grey. :D
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Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:49 pm

I should have stopped myself! Everything was setup for me to finish all the painting today. The boot, doors, bonnet and door mirrors all had the base coat on, and I just needed to apply the lacquer. Unfortunately inexperience on my part (too much mixture I think) led to what I can only describe as an alligator texture on the door. I thought about lacquering over it, but decided that just wasn't going to work, so I ended up sanding it all off. I think I have enough of the original paint left, so I'll attend to it later.

The rest went just fine and here are a few pictures.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ul46mc63zrxexpf/IMG_2613.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a371i025y8qcv90/IMG_2614.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2nxfj6i1vxck2y/IMG_2615.JPG?dl=0

The things I've learnt from this experience are:
1. Practice, practice and then practice some more.
2. Don't do it again.

I'll leave the car for several weeks now to let the lacquer harden (I've got big problems if it doesn't) and then I'll go over it with 2000 grit wet and dry sand paper, before polishing it with a DA polisher, which if all things go to plan should bring out the true shine and colour.
All the best,

Ian

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:26 pm

Today can only be described as wet, messy and very revealing, and as a result I'm looking for some advice.

In order to get the windows back in I need to have a new headlining installed, and before I can do that I need to remove the old roll-bar. Phil Ivimey had once commented that he didn't know where the roll-bar was secured and now I have the answer. All I can say is I'm not sure how useful it would have been in an accident. In short it was bolted to the car in four place, two bolts securing it on the B-Pillar. I haven't looked to see what the bolts were secured to yet as it was raining heavily.

The fibreglass holding it in place was quite extensive, but no match for my angle grinder; however, the amount of dust it created is no one's business.

Here are a few pictures to help you see how it was and is now.

This shows the roll-bar above the front seats and running over the rear quarter towards the boot.

The bar running over the rear quarter was bolted to the bar above the front seats and that in turn was secured only to the B-Pillar. When I say secured I mean bolted. The roll-bar itself was heavily fibre glassed in place.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5yo26baow6grm2/IMG_2623.JPG?dl=0

If you look carefully you'll see the two bolts
https://www.dropbox.com/s/okzoezuhss7dc7o/IMG_2616.JPG?dl=0

The roll-bar looked like it was going through the floor, but cutting through the fibre glass showed that wasn't the case. It was just fibre glass.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhllcdu3yv47zqc/IMG_2609.JPG?dl=0

Only fibre glass was holding it in place at the rear.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5kyjopoghv2tt3/IMG_2620.JPG?dl=0

A few more after I'd removed the fibre glass
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2pw6i11i7ruumv9/IMG_2626.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m3vtc41datiuovl/IMG_2629.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u94rut79ra2bbip/IMG_2630.JPG?dl=0

Can someone please let me know if they think I've removed enough of the fibre glass to allow the headlining and interior to be put back?

Does anyone think the roll-cage would have worked in an accident?
All the best,

Ian

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby Tony Hayward » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:32 pm

Ian

Glad to see you are making progress!!

To answer your questions in reverse, no I don't think the roll cage would have added much strength-it should have been secured to the chassis. In fact given a impact, the tubing may have transferred loading and caused more of the bodyshell to break away.

For your first question, the headlining is basically stretched acoss the 'A', 'B' and 'C' pillars, so provided you remove enough to enable the material to run across from the windscreen lip to the door seal lip, the door seal lip to the side window lip etc you could leave the rest. Don't forget to glass in some strengthening into the 'C' pillars if you are fitting catches to open the side windows.

Best of luck

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Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:56 pm

Hi Tony,

I'm glad you remembered about the catches. I'll put the windows back in and work out where they need to sit and put something in place to take the catches.

Thank you Sir.
All the best,

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:59 pm

Hi Tony,

Could you please post some pictures of your interior. I am interested in the areas around the top of the A,B & C pillars, plus the rear quarter below the window.

Thanks.
All the best,

Ian

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby Tony Hayward » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:34 pm

Ian

Love to help you with photos, BUT my headlining is in very poor condition-needs replacing!!! It would not be a good example to follow. (Also my car has always had a Weathershields fabric sunroof). The reason I haven't done it yet is that the vinyl roof covering (a 70's/80's thing!) will also need replacing and the sunroof will need rebuilding, consequently the bill suddenly becomes £000's!!

What I can tell you though, is that there were horizontal joints [in the headlining] at the top of each pillar; also vinyl is at the bottom of the 'A' pillar, up about 75mm from the dashboard top, then the headlining material.
The 'B' pillar also has a horizontal joint at the top of the side window; similarly the rear quarter fabric stops roughly at the bottom of the side window.
The 'C' pillar, I am sure, had a horizontal joint at the top of the rear window, and disappered below the rear shelf cover.
I know whats left (!!) of my headlining is original, so it has a ribbed pattern which is continued down each pillar in the same direction. Obviously if you use a non pattered material that would not matter.

Hope this is enough!!

Regards

Tony

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Postby R_D_Olivaw » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:29 pm

Thanks Tony.

I was thinking of separating the fabric on the pillars from the headlining to make it easier to make, install and manage. As I have decided to leave the job until next year I have some time to play with it.

I had the idea of making some templates with heavy duty card, and then covering it with black vinyl to match the seats and carpets.
All the best,

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:16 pm

I had a little spare time on my hands today, so I decided to have a look at my paint work. Unfortunately when I cut out the roll-cage last week it rained and the sparks from the angle grinder turned to rust when they landed on the wet body and the dust created by me cutting through all the fibre glass did a similar things, so step one was to wash the car. This was a little tricky as there are no doors or glass on the car, but I got there in the end.

Just to recap, this is the first car I've painted; the car didn't look very shiny after I'd finished and I had this theory that if I sanded it with 2000 grit sandpaper, then went over it with a DA polisher it would be just fine.

Here's a few photos.

The first one is of the roof, which is probably the worst of my painting, but it's to give you an idea of what the section of paint looked like before I sanded it.

If you have a heart condition it might be best to skip the first photo as it's not pretty.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng72qqqetdvxv39/IMG_2663.JPG?dl=0

I know it's a little bumpy and other things.

The first step was to sand it. I started with 2000 grit, but quickly realised it was rougher than I thought, so went with 1500 and later followed it up with 2000.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dszhww2qyc8cuc/IMG_2661.JPG?dl=0

If you look at the bottom section of the sanded area you'll see the low points that I hadn't sanded at that point. They appear as dark spots.

I continued sanding until the top coat (lacquer) was completely flat, and then I set to work with my polish and DA polisher. For those that aren't familiar with how polish works, it's a very fine abrasive, so acts a bit like sand paper, but removes less of the top coat and brings out the shine. Like sand paper, if you polish too much it will remove the top coat and go through to the base coat.

Here's the finished article. The light wasn't great, so not even I don't know how this will look in the day light, but it was very smooth and appeared to be quite shiny.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfavhyqadcopxz9/IMG_2665.JPG?dl=0

The polishing is a relatively easy job to do and compared to the sanding a lot faster. Over the winter months I'll sand the top coat down to make it completely smooth, and when complete I'll go over the entire car with the DA polisher.

Some sections of the car are painted better than others, so I'm hoping the sanding will be easier to do in places.
All the best,

Ian

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Postby Dan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:30 pm

Ian, your spray work is really impressive, wish i could do that. Would look like a kid had attacked it with a paintbrush if i did it.

I have managed to find time to get the plugs out (all looking relatively even carbon deposits), fit a new battery and remove the carb. Hopefully strip the carb over the weekend when the service kit arrives.

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby R_D_Olivaw » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:13 pm

Hi Dan,

I can see it hasn't taken you long to get stuck in. I wish my garage was as light as yours, and now you've got me thinking about getting some LED lights so I can see better on those cold wintry evenings.

With regards my painting skill, my car does look like a kid attacked it with a paint brush; however my ability to correct a bad paint job seems considerably better than my ability to get it right first time. :lol:
All the best,

Ian

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Postby Dan » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:43 pm

:) Thanks Ian,

I actually just put three strip fluorescent lights up in my garage which i saved when we changed our kitchen. Interestingly, i recently painted the floor grey with some of that 2 pack resin like paint and it really reflects the light back making it much brighter.

Trying to crack on in any free time i get. Really pleased today i got it turning over on the starter motor and did a compression check with all 6 cylinders fine. I also removed the old distributor and placed in a new one with electronic ignition, but i need to sort out the wiring and the timing when i get it fired.

Not getting any fuel through yet so think the pump may have died but ran out of time to look at that.

Dan

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Postby R_D_Olivaw » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:50 pm

And now you've given me the idea of painting my garage floor grey!

My family will be pleased to hear the good news.

I bought some LED lights today, and hope to reproduce your results.
All the best,

Ian

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby R_D_Olivaw » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:19 pm

I gave my wife an early Christmas present, by moving my windscreens into the garage. :D
All the best,

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Re: What did you do today?

Postby Dan » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:48 am

Made a lot of progress yesterday;

1. Stripped down the seized fuel pump and managed to lubricate it and get it working again
2. Finally rebuilt my Carb after literally days trying to work out the orientation of the fast idle arm spring.
3. New plugs and leads
4. :D :D The first start after 18 years!!! so pleased and managed to set the timing.

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I did develop a leak on the thermostatic switch for the electric fan on the radiator but i have posted about that in the technical section
Also need to set up the carb and i noticed some exhaust leaks which i will look into in the future.

All in all i am chuffed and love the sound of the essex v6

Dan


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